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In short: I don’t think that it is possible to deliberately overcome the pull of industry agglomerations and natural amenities in a way to sufficiently alter patterns of migration and investment in the US. I think that is also true within metros as well. People will always want to live close to unique amenities and jobs, all else equal. Trying to constrain development in areas of high demand is most likely to just lead to more exurban development, not to more investment in areas of the core that are located further away from amenities and jobs than the areas of high demand.

I think that I simply have a different mental model of how the world works. I don’t think that it is really possible to avoid the kinds of concentrations of wealth, power, influence, etc. Wherever the largest industry agglomeration is for a particular industry, that is the place that the most ambitious people in that industry are going to want to be. For IT that is the SF Bay Area; for high finance and corporate governance that is NYC. Then you add on to those agglomerations the fact that a place like SF has amenities that no other metro in the US can offer. No where else in the US has the same climate, and the same access to natural amenities like the mountains and the oceans. The closest places to it are other coastal, high cost metros like San Diego and LA. People with money are going to want to live there almost no matter what anyone else in the world does, because most people would want to live in a warm, sunny, temperate climate by the beach with easy access to scenic mountains. Limiting the amount of housing in those metros does force people to either move out of those metros or never move to them in the first place. But it does so through the mechanism of high housing costs, which means that it doesn’t really spread the investment that goes along with being a premier hub for a certain (or various) industries, as the wealthiest people and the most highly paid workers stay put in those metros.

And within metro areas, there are also inevitably going to be geographic variations in proximity to amenities. Maybe it is going to be a hill with scenic views. Maybe it will be areas that are close to transit stops or close to major employment centers. Maybe it will be proximity to parks or trails. Whatever it is, there will be some parts of the city that more people want to live in than others, and people with money will bid up the prices of housing in those areas. But since the reason that demand is there in the first place is the proximity to unique amenities, constraining development in those areas isn’t going to push development into adjoining areas. If what people want is to live someplace that’s within a 15 minute walk of Central Park, constraining development of housing close to the park isn’t going to lead to more investment in a neighborhood that is say, a 25 minute walk from the park. If you want more investment in that 25 minute neighborhood, then you are going to need to do something that makes more people want to live in that neighborhood (like maybe building another park?).

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Your critique of the abundance and YIMBY movements, and of urbanists in general, reminded me a little of some of the message of Pope Francis in his environmental encyclical {Laudato Si) published ten years ago, which was partly an indictment of environmentalists (my primary profession) but also included some critiques of urbanism. Following are few excerpts of relevance:

LS49: "This is due partly to the fact that many professionals, opinion makers, communications media and centres of power, being located in affluent urban areas, are far removed from the poor, with little direct contact with their problems. They live and reason from the comfortable position of a high level of development and a quality of life well beyond the reach of the majority of the world’s population. This lack of physical contact and encounter, encouraged at times by the disintegration of our cities, can lead to a numbing of conscience and to tendentious analyses which neglect parts of reality. At times this attitude exists side by side with a “green” rhetoric. Today, however, we have to realize that a true ecological approach always becomes a social approach; it must integrate questions of justice in debates on the environment, so as to hear both the cry of the earth and the cry of the poor."

I believe the above excerpt speaks to "insulation."

LS 111. "Ecological culture cannot be reduced to a series of urgent and partial responses to the immediate problems of pollution, environmental decay and the depletion of natural resources. There needs to be a distinctive way of looking at things, a way of thinking, policies, an educational programme, a lifestyle and a spirituality which together generate resistance to the assault of the technocratic paradigm. Otherwise, even the best ecological initiatives can find themselves caught up in the same globalized logic. To seek only a technical remedy to each environmental problem which comes up is to separate what is in reality interconnected and to mask the true and deepest problems of the global system."

The abundance movement is arguably a "technocratic" approach - that doesn't really address the deeper social and economic challenges in our society.

LS150. "Given the interrelationship between living space and human behaviour, those who design buildings, neighbourhoods, public spaces and cities, ought to draw on the various disciplines which help us to understand people’s thought processes, symbolic language and ways of acting. It is not enough to seek the beauty of design. More precious still is the service we offer to another kind of beauty: people’s quality of life, their adaptation to the environment, encounter and mutual assistance. Here too, we see how important it is that urban planning always take into consideration the views of those who will live in these areas."

I included this as an example of sections of Laudato Si that explicitly address urban planning and urbanism.

LS194: "Put simply, it is a matter of redefining our notion of progress. A technological and economic development which does not leave in its wake a better world and an integrally higher quality of life cannot be considered progress."

This is a more subtle and profound criticism of progressives, and specifically those focused on "technocratic" solutions or an improved bureaucracy (that for example, helps develop more housing by eliminating certain layers of "red tape"). I interpret to mean that there is no meaningful progress if it doesn't the distressed cities, neighborhoods, and left-behind people in the US (whether they live in forgotten inner city neighborhoods, or dying small towns, or rural areas).

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